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ST vs. LT Tires: What’s the Difference?

03 Wednesday Mar 2021

Posted by Coach-Net in RV Information, Tech Tips

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ST vs. LT Tires: What's the Difference?

Are you looking for a little entertainment? Head over to your favorite RV forum and search for “ST vs. LT tires,” and don’t forget the popcorn. The debate on which one is better for travel trailers and fifth wheels has raged on for years. It probably isn’t going to be settled anytime soon, either. If you are new to RVing, going through the forum discussions will present you with good information and wrong information. It can be challenging to figure out which is which. Hopefully, by the end of this article, you will understand how these two types of tires differ, so you can decide what is right for you.

What are LT Tires?

Cars will have P-type or passenger tires designed to give the buttery-smooth ride felt in most cars. If you want to carry a heavy load, P tires will bend and flex more than they should. Just like a wire gets hot when you bend it back and forth, a tire does too. Heat is the arch-nemesis of tires and causes many blowouts.

LT stands for light truck tires, and they are designed for heavier duty trucks and SUVs that need to carry more weight. They have thicker sidewalls and heavier duty construction than P-type tires. The thicker sidewall and materials used in the tire make it more rigid and harder to bend and flex as much as passenger tires.

Though they give a stiffer ride, they are still designed with the passengers’ comfort in mind. Manufacturers attempt to develop these tires to hold up and dissipate heat under a load while still flexing and rolling enough to provide a ride that is as comfortable as possible. Their tread is designed to have maximum traction under various road conditions and grip the road under a powered axel.

Though LT tires were not explicitly engineered for trailers, some travel trailers and fifth wheels come with this type of tire installed off the lot. That doesn’t mean LT tires are the best option for every camper out there. There are pros and cons to everything in life.

What are ST Tires?

Travel trailers and fifth wheels do not need to feel nice to passengers while traveling down the road since no one should be in them at that time. They don’t need the traction to grip and propel you forward because their job is to be pulled behind a vehicle. ST stands for “special trailer,” and they are engineered to hold up lots of weight. Their rigid walls prevent trailer sway. The tread design provides low resistance for ease of towing and better gas mileage.

They don’t just look different externally. Tim Fry, a senior development engineer with Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company stated, “The major difference is reflected in the polyester cords used in ST tires. These cords are bigger than they would be for a comparable P or LT tire. Typically, the steel wire also has a larger diameter or greater tensile strength to meet the additional load requirements. Because of the heavier construction for an equal volume of air space, an ST tire is designated to carry more load than a P or LT tire.”

On top of the internal differences, the rubber used in ST tires typically has more chemicals that resist aging and UV rays. The rubber compound itself is usually harder, giving it more sidewall strength. In short, ST tires are designed to be put on a trailer.

Trailer Tire Safety

A lot is riding in your RV tires, literally. It’s vital to follow tire safety when towing a travel trailer or a fifth wheel. Most tire blowouts are a result of either old tires that come apart or heat buildup.

Heat Buildup

Proper Inflation: Proper inflation is listed in two places. There will be a sticker located somewhere around your RV door, which has the GVWR, tire size, and inflation pressure. The tire itself will list the cold inflation pressure on them. Underinflated tires will bend and flex the tire more as the wheel travels down the road. This causes heat to build up, and remember, heat is the arch-nemesis of tires.

Overloaded Trailer: Overloaded tires cause flexing and add dangerous stress to your tires, resulting in blowouts. Your travel trailer or fifth wheel is not intended to have more weight than the GVWR states on that sticker mentioned above. GVWR stands for Gross Vehicle Weight Rating, and it is a measurement of all the things in the RV plus the weight of the RV itself. On top of the GVWR, each tire has a maximum load rating as well. Goodyear has a handy index and instructions on how to find your tires’ load index here.

Tire Blowout

There are two ways to find out if you are overloaded. Go to a truck stop with a CAT scale without your RV and weigh your towing vehicle, then go over the same scale with your RV attached. Subtract your vehicle’s weight from the second weight, and you have the total weight of your RV.

The best and second method requires you to find a place that specifically weighs RVs like RVSEF or Escapees RV Club Smart Weigh Program. They can weigh each tire separately and tell you if any tire is overcapacity.

Speed: If your RV is equipped with ST tires, they are not meant to be driven over 65 mph. You see and hear of people towing their trailers down the road at 80+ mph all the time. You also hear of ST tires blowing out all the time. Coincidence? There are some ST tires on the market, such as the Goodyear Endurance, which has an N speed rating allowing for a max speed of 87 mph. You can find the speed rating after the load rating on a tire. If your ST tire has no letter, then the speed rating is 65 mph.

Tire Source & Speed Rating Chart

The source and speed rating chart can be found here.

This writer believes that towing an RV down the road is safer at no faster than 65 mph, though. On top of the safety factor, the faster you pull that thing, the worse your gas mileage is. Look at it this way, a 500-mile trip will take 7.6 hours at 65 mph and 6.6 hours at 75 mph. Is the safety of your family and RV worth saving an hour? If you absolutely must make sure your speed needle is at the exact number that the speed limit signs state, make sure your tire is rated for that speed.

Age

Most people don’t put enough miles on their RV tires to wear them out. But tires do have an expiration date. Tires on a trailer should be replaced every 5 to 6 years. That is generally a good rule for ST or LT tires on a trailer. Trailer tires are constantly under a heavy load, and they tend to sit in storage for long periods between use, which causes them to break down faster.

Before each trip, inspect your tires for any cracks around the treads or the tire’s sidewall. There should be no bulges or defects of any kind. Remember, the 5 to 6-year rule only applies if your tires aren’t showing defects before that time. Many factors may require them to be replaced sooner.

The ST vs. LT Debate

Some RVers feel that LT tires are superior to ST tires and that no one should use ST tires. This claim can be found in many RV forums. It is usually based on anecdotal information or personal stories.

While individual stories and reviews of tires are important, it is hard to argue with an entire tire industry spanning global manufacturers and companies that say ST tires are a tool developed specifically for trailers. With tire manufacturers coming out with new ST tires with higher speed ratings, some of their arguments do not hold water.

Some RVers just want LT tires on their travel trailers and fifth wheels that didn’t come with them. On the flip side, some RVs come with LT tires from the factory. However, if you want to switch to LT tires, you must make a few considerations.

  • LT and ST tires do not have the same load rating when comparing size for size, so make sure whatever tire you choose has a sufficient load capacity for your RV. If the tires you are switching to have a higher load capacity, that does not automatically increase your GVWR. It’s never safe to overload your RV.
  • You will probably have to choose a larger tire size to find an LT tire of equal or greater load capacity. Make sure there is sufficient clearance all around the tire.
  • When you change your tire size, you will need a properly sized wheel as well. Changing out tires and wheels can be rather costly.

Conclusion

At the end of the day, it boils down to this. Tire manufacturers state that they have designed ST tires for the loads and motion that travel trailers and fifth wheels experience. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that your best gas mileage and towing feel will probably come from ST tires, especially if that is the type of tire your RV came with. If your current ST tires don’t have the speed rating you like, or you don’t feel comfortable with the no-name brand tires that came with your rig, there are several options of high-end ST tires to choose from.

LT tires are not wrong or right for the most part. They just aren’t engineered for that job necessarily. Can you use them? Yes. If they are the proper weight rating and size for your RV. Many people run them with little problems at all, and some RVs come with them.

Should you switch to them if your RV didn’t come with them? It’s up to you but think of it this way. A rounded shovel is suitable for digging in the ground, a snow shovel is designed to glide over the top of the ground to move snow. Both are shovels, and technically you can use the smaller round tip shovel to move snow, but it won’t do the job as well as the snow shovel.

The snow shovel could be used to dig a hole, but it would be difficult, and you would probably damage the snow shovel in the process. Similarly, tire engineers tell us that ST tires were designed for the loads and force a trailer will experience. LT tires were engineered more for the loads and forces the towing vehicle will have. It’s best to always ensure that you are not only using the right tool for the job, but you are using it properly too.


About the author: Levi Henley

Levi Henley and his wife, Natalie, have been full-time RVers for over 5 years. They have also been Coach-Net customers for the same amount of time.  They travel and workcamp around the U.S. in their 26-foot Itasca Sunstar motorhome with their two cats.  They write for multiple RV-related publications and recently co-wrote “Seasonal Workamping for a Living: How We Did It.” You can follow their adventures on the road at henleyshappytrails.com 

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Hassle-Free RV Tire Buying Experience

23 Wednesday May 2018

Posted by Coach-Net in RV Information

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purchasing rv tires, RV Life, rv tire discount, RV Tires, RV travel, tire safety

hassle-free tire buyingHow much time do you spend thinking about your RV tires? Most RV owners keep notes regarding the well-being of their coaches, and many perform a variety of repairs themselves. However, it is fundamentally important to keep the condition of your tires at the forefront of your mind whenever you are embarking on an RV trip.

It is your tires that have the mammoth task of keeping your rig rolling smoothly and safely down the road so it is extremely important to regularly inspect your tires, as well as to be aware of the manufacture date, since RV tires tend to age out instead of wearing out. RV tires should be replaced every five to seven years in general, and they should always be replaced in sets whenever possible. You will not likely notice significant tread wear on RV tires, although wear patterns can be indicative of other alignment or chassis issues. Rather the rubber will start to dry out, crack, rot, and generally wear out. This can happen from the inside out, so careful inspection is fundamentally important. Your local tire shop can assist you with the inspection and recommendation for replacement. Do not neglect this important aspect of RV maintenance. Experiencing a flat tire is never a pleasant experience, especially when it’s on a larger RV or trailer. These units can be excessively hard to control during a blowout, and you aren’t likely to be able to replace the tire yourself, even if you do carry a spare. This is one area where you definitely want to be proactive rather than reactive.tire blowout

When it comes time to replace RV tires, many people experience severe sticker shock, with the price increasing with tire size and quantity. For a large diesel RV for instance, it is not uncommon to spend close to $4,000 to replace all tires. Although this is predicted pricing for high-quality tires, I would not suggest putting low- or even mid-grade tires on your coach. This is a major outlay of cash, and when faced with this scenario, some RV owners opt to have lower quality tires installed, or only have some of the tires replaced. As I mentioned before, resist the temptation to go this route if you possibly can.

Fortunately, Coach-Net has acknowledged the burden that the high cost of new tires has on most RV owners and has decided to take action. Coach-Net now offers a discount tire program, which allows members to purchase high-quality tires from Michelin® or Goodyear® at a significant discount. Plus, Coach-Net’s program is completely hassle-free.

If you are purchasing tires on your own, you have to follow these steps, which can be cumbersome and, often times, extremely time consuming:

  1. Source the tires. This may take several hours/days to find the type of tire you want at a cost you desire.
    • If the RV in question takes automotive tires that are not classified as truck tires, this is generally not a problem, since most places that sell tires, such as Costco, will carry these.
    • Note that if the RV takes “light truck”, or “LT” tires, selection may be limited at some locations.
    • If the motorhome takes truck tires, sourcing them requires a little more effort, since these would have to be purchased from a tire shop.
    • For large RVs such as diesel pushers, the tire shop would also have to have both the space and expertise required to work on trucks.
    • I recommend always spending the extra money to get the highest grade tires such as Michelin or Goodyear, as they are of superior quality, and actually result in a better ride.  There is a lot riding on your RV tires!
    • If you are looking for trailer tires, a tire shop is the best bet, but be sure to purchase the correct size AND load rating of tire.
  2. It is recommended by most tire and vehicle experts and mechanics that all the tires be replaced at the same time. In addition to not having to worry about different wear states of tires, there are other risks to not replacing all tires, including a high chance of dually tires being different diameters if they are not both replaced at the same time.
  3. Make an appointment with the tire shop or vendor to install the tires. As mentioned above, not all places will have the capability or expertise to work on your vehicle, so choose carefully.
    • If you really can’t afford to replace all tires (or if you are replacing as a result of a blowout), have the tire shop rotate the tires.

Coach-Net’s process is much simpler, PLUS members can receive high quality tires at up to a 15% discount.

  1. Fill out a simple online form, in less than 5 minutes, where you are asked for information such as your name, member number, number and size of tires needed, etc.
  2. A Coach-Net representative will call you back to confirm the details.
  3. The Coach-Net team then makes all the arrangements for you, including booking the appointment and arranging payment on your behalf. = 0 minutes of your time
  4. Finally, take your vehicle into the tire shop for your appointment. That’s it, no fuss!

I recommend all Coach-Net members take advantage of the Tire Discount program when you need to replace your tires. It can save you lots of money on your choice of two of the best tire brands on the market and takes the hassle out of tire shopping.

About the Author: 

Steve Froese, an avid RV owner, traveler, and Coach-Net member since 2013, is the principal of “A Word to the Wise Technical Communications”, a published RV author, certified RV technician, and licensed Professional Engineer. He frequently collaborates with the “RV Doctor”, Gary Bunzer, and has worked with the RVIA/RVDA as a technical and training writer and consultant. Professionally, he works as a quality engineer and musician. Watch for more of Steve’s work in upcoming Coach-Net publications.

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