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De-Winterizing Your Rig

02 Wednesday Mar 2022

Posted by Coach-Net in Tech Tips, Tips & Tricks

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RV Shows are back on this spring and attendance is record-breaking! I conduct seminars at RV shows around the country and what I have experienced is the excitement of RVers of all types wanting to get out and use their rigs. Some are looking to buy for the first time while others are seasoned veterans and itching to pull the covers off their sleeping beauties!

There have been several articles written about the steps to bring your RV out of storage and de-winterizing them. However, it is always a good idea to refresh your memory to make sure you look at all aspects of the rig and a few new tips on some of the new materials and appliances being used in RVs today.

Let’s start with the 120-volt/LP water heater. Hopefully, you drained all the water out last fall before putting it to bed. If so, you must fill the tank with water before turning the unit on, or it will burn out the heating element and ruin the water heater. BUT…before you fill it with water, now is a good time to do a thorough cleaning. If you look at the drain plug on your water heater, you will see it is not at the very bottom of the tank, rather an inch or more up the side which means you probably did not get all the water out. The small amount of water will not do any damage as it freezes, however, it is probably getting very “murky” and full of lime and calcium. Most owners do not realize this and every year the sediment gets thicker and thicker until it gets so thick it insulates the water from the heating element and does not run efficiently. It is a good idea to flush out all the sediment with a flush tool such as this one available on Amazon here.

Check All Sealants And Condition The Roof

The drastic temperature changes throughout the winter and spring can be rough on sealants and materials that are a vital part of keeping moisture out of your rig. Your roof material is most likely either a rubber component or fiberglass. Rubber material such as EPDM and TPO needs to be cleaned periodically and conditioned. Cleaning can be done with mild dish soap such as Dawn (Blue) and water with a soft bristle brush or broom. I would not recommend a pressure washer and you can literally peel the membrane away from sealants or openings. Conditioning depends on the type of material however DiCor has conditioners that are recommended by most membrane manufacturers. Alpha Systems recommends just cleaning with Murphy Soap and the new PVC-type membranes just recommend cleaning and no conditioning.

It is also important to visually inspect all sealants from top to bottom. Most manufacturers use a self-leveling sealant at the roof to front cap joint, sidewall to the roof, and around anything mounted to the roof. As the temperature changes, the materials expand and contract which means the sealants will do the same. If they get brittle due to exposure to the sun and elements, they will crack and must either have additional sealant added or remove the old sealant and reseal. Keep in mind you must use a sealant that is designed for your type of roof material or hard-front fiberglass cap! Standard residential silicone typically will not adhere to this type of material and will not seal. Check with your manufacturer or Dicor to get the correct product.

Another seal that is often overlooked is the rubber bulb and flap seal of slide rooms. The longer this is exposed to the sun and elements, the dryer the material gets and less chance of sealing.

There are several products that claim to be slide seal lubricants, however, I like 303 Protectant or ProtectAll All-purpose conditioners as they have UV protection built-in and actually condition the rubber material.

While you are conditioning the seals, inspect the top to make sure the seal has not been damaged by retracting the room with debris on the top? And check underneath to make sure the rollers are in good working order.

Sometimes the room can get out of alignment and not seal properly. Check the inside to make sure no moisture was able to penetrate at the corners which would lead to a soft floor and eventual expensive repairs.

A few years ago one of our local owners uncovered his rig for the spring, plugged it in, went inside to turn on the roof AC and it started “snowing”! A squirrel had worked its way under the cover and made a nest in the white insulation of the fan housing. After chewing most of the beaded insulation, it blew through the ductwork and created quite a mess. We were able to replace the insulation but it took a long time to clean out all the ductwork. What a mess, so make sure you inspect everything for “critters”. This is the unit before we uncovered the damage.

Tires

Tires are the most vulnerable component on an RV and typically the most neglected. It’s not uncommon for tires to lose pressure when just sitting and especially sitting for several months without being checked. Check the pressure and the sidewall for weather checking to help reduce tire failure further down the road. Spring is also a good time to have the bearings repacked and brakes checked on trailers. Most axle manufacturers recommend once a year. Even bearings with easy grease applications recommend inspection and repacking every year. Check with your axle manufacturer which is typically Dexter or Lippert.

LP System

I like to check the LP system in the spring when I bring my unit out of storage. This can be done with a water column test which is a little technical or with a simple tool available on Amazon. I use this tester at all the appliances to verify there are no leaks. You can also use an LP leak test solution but it takes much longer to test every connection. Do not use soap and water as the soap can damage components in the connections.

When opening the LP container valve, do it slowly as there is an excess flow valve that will shut down the flow if opened rapidly. This can take several minutes to reset as the backflow needs to bring the pressure down.

Another maintenance item I perform during de-winterization is the cleaning and inspecting the back of the absorption refrigerator. Remove the exterior vent and you will see the LP supply line, spark ignitor, burner tube, and cooling unit. Use an air compressor and blow off all the dust and clean the soot that forms in the burner assembly and flue. Make sure you have safety glasses as this can be a mess!

If your rig has a refrigerator vent on the roof, remove the cap and make sure the rectangular vent with a screen covering it is clean so it does not restrict the hot air from venting out.

Then I use a dollar bill and place it between the refrigerator door and cabinet, close the door and see what type of resistance I get. If the dollar pulls out easily, your door is not getting a good seal and warm moist air can get inside and cause excessive frosting or insufficient cooling. It’s not uncommon for the door to settle while banging it down the road and might need to be adjusted or shimmed.

Make a checklist

Just like your pre-departure checklist, it is a good idea to customize one for your rig to bring it out in the spring and not leave anything to memory. Conducting a thorough inspection and proper maintenance can help reduce failures and deterioration of materials down the road.


About the author: Dave Solberg: Managing Editor, RV Repair Club

For the last 25 years, Dave has conducted RV maintenance and safety seminars, developed dealer and owner training programs, written RV safety and handyman articles authored an RV handbook reference guide, and logged over 100,000 miles on the road in an RV.

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It’s About Time To Wake Up That Hibernating RV!

05 Thursday Mar 2020

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Wake Up That Hibernating RV

Spring officially starts March 19, 2020, so that means it’s not that far away…hopefully!  It also means it time to start thinking about bringing your rig out of hibernation and getting it ready for summer RV fun. Hopefully, you checked out our blogs on winterizing so you do not have any surprises waiting for you?

Exterior Inspection

Exterior Of RV

Start with a detailed walk-around inspection of the rig to see if there is any damage due to high winds, tree limbs, rodents, or even vandalism.  If there is damage, you will want to take pictures and call your insurance company before going any further.

The unit pictured above looked to be in good shape with a customized cover, however, after removing the cover, we found squirrels found a way into the roof air conditioner unit and chewed all the Styrofoam insulation around the blower motor!  Notice all the trees around the unit…this winter we added squirrel repellant inside, outside, and on top!

Check The Roof Material And Sealants

RV manufacturers use several different sealants for joints throughout the RV such as the roof to the sidewall, front cap to roof material, windows and so much more.  As temperatures change, materials in your RV expand and contract and so do those sealants.  Leaving your rig exposed to the elements makes the sealants dry up and become brittle and crack as the materials expand and contract, moisture can penetrate into the roof, sidewalls, and other areas and create expensive damage.  It is critical that you inspect these areas to ensure they are in good condition.

Roof Inspection

Inspection should include every vent, skylight, TV antenna or other items on the roof that has sealant around the edge.  If you see signs of cracking sealant, or water stains inside the rig, you will need to remove the old sealant and apply new.

Slide Room Inspection

Protect All Products Slide rooms require very little maintenance, however, if there is debris such as sticks or acorns on the top of the slide and they are retracted, the rubber seal will be compromised and moisture penetration could occur.  When bringing your rig out in the spring, run the slide rooms out and inspect the roof material, rubber seals, look for any leaks.  Make sure all rubber seals are installed properly and making contact. This is also a good time to condition the rubber gaskets with an approved treatment such as these ProtectAll products

Batteries

RV Batteries Deep cycle house batteries need to be properly stored with either a charge from a multi-stage charger during storage, or have the batteries removed and properly charged in a garage or shed.  In the spring, it’s time to check lead-acid batteries for proper fluid level and either reinstall them or clean all the posts and connections and apply a protective spray.  Make sure all battery cables and wires are in good condition and not chewed or compromised by rodents.

Freshwater Tanks

Water Tank CleanerSince the water used in your freshwater tanks typically would be hard water from a campground source, it is a good idea to sanitize the system using ¼ cup bleach in a gallon of water for every 15 gallons of freshwater capacity.  Fill the tank and run all faucets for approximately 10 minutes.  If you do not like the smell of bleach, Thetford makes a freshwater tank sanitizer as well.

LP System

HomeFlex Electronic TesterTypically RV owners do not remove the LP tanks or cylinders during storage, however, it’s a good time to check all connections for leaks.  Make sure you open the valve slowly to allow LP to flow at a reasonable rate and not activate the excess flow valve.  After opening the valve, test your LP leak detector to make sure it is operating properly.  You can use a liquid test solution to test all connections at the appliance, or HomeFlex makes an electronic tester that is available at most home improvement stores.

Tires, Bearings, Axle

When bringing your rig out from hibernation there are several checkpoints for tires, bearings, and axles.  First, check the sidewall for cracking known as weather checking.  Any crack over 1/8” inch should be replaced.  Visually inspect the sidewall for bumps or bulges, tread for uneven wear or chunks of missing tread, and rim to tire connection or “bead” for signs of rust or other issues that might create a loss of tire pressure.  Check the pressure with a certified pressure gauge.  If you have a spare, make sure it’s in good condition with the correct pressure.

Most trailer manufacturers recommend repacking the wheel bearing once a year and this is a good time to have this procedure done before hitting the hot days of summer on the road.  If you are experiencing an uneven wear pattern of your tires, it’s also a good time to have a qualified trailer technician check the alignment of your axles.

Interior

Spring is a good time to remove and clean your air conditioner return air filter and tighten the spring-loaded bolts.  You will also want to change the battery in the CO tester and smoke alarms.

Interior Of RV

And finally, check all appliance manufactures recommendations such as fluid levels in hydraulic system for leveling jacks and slide rooms, chassis recommendations for fluids,


About the author: Dave Solberg: Managing Editor, RV Repair Club

For the last 25 years, Dave has conducted RV maintenance and safety seminars, developed dealer and owner training programs, written RV safety and handyman articles, authored an RV handbook reference guide and logged over 100,000 miles on the road in an RV.

RV Repair ClubRV Repair Club is your go-to online resource for enthusiasts who want quality RV maintenance, repair and upgrade information – a community where passionate RVers can come together to gather knowledge and share their experiences.

Learn more about RV Repair Club.


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How to De-Winterize Your RV

15 Wednesday Mar 2017

Posted by Coach-Net in Tech Tips

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De-Winterize RVPeople are getting ready to enjoy camping the minute it warms up. Some of you are out there right now! You can already smell the campfire and taste the s’mores, but first things first – before taking your RV out for its inaugural adventure of the season, be sure to take the proper steps to de-winterize it.

Inspect Your RV

The first thing you need to do when bringing your rig out of storage is inspect the entire coach for any damage or signs of deterioration.  If you put a tarp or cover, make sure all snaps, cords, and fasteners are loosened and nothing is in the way or binding when removing it.  It’s also a good idea to get up on top to see if there is any standing water, branches, or other items that you need to be aware of.  If there is water or even ice, make sure you brush it off before removing the cover, especially if you left a vent cracked open slightly (which I don’t recommend!).  Remove any covers or plastic you might have installed over the refrigerator vent, water heater vent, furnace vent, or roof vents!

Now do a good walk around the rig to see if there is any bulging in the sidewall, signs of rodents or other animals, and go inside and look for signs of moisture penetration.  This is also a good time to wash the rig and apply the appropriate conditioner for the roof material.  Then visually inspect all the sealants on the roof, sidewall, and end caps for signs of cracking, separating, or deterioration.  If there are suspect areas, you can clean it with denatured alcohol and apply more of the appropriate sealant for the roof material.  I suggest the self-leveling lap sealant from Dicor for roof sealants and then find the appropriate sealant for other areas.  Windows generally use Butyl tape which is a material, not silicone!  Other components use a special silicone known as 321 or 301 depending on the application.  Check with your RV manufacturer for the appropriate sealant.  Generic silicone is not recommended.

RV roof

Reinstall Batteries

If you removed your batteries at the time of storage, reinstall them and make sure to clean the posts and terminals and check fluid levels.  If you stored your rig hooked up to an electrical source, check the fluid levels and the condition of the batteries.

For motorized, you may have dead engine batteries which means your engine computer has lost its settings and may need a series of steps to bring it back to normal operating condition.  My parents had a Chevy Vortec that they stored without hooking up and every spring we have to jump start the rig, let it idle for about 15 minutes, drive for 15 minutes at a lower speed, and then drive for another 15 at 55-60. Otherwise, it will not get over 1500 rpm and won’t leave the storage lot!  Check your owner’s manual for specific steps for engine computer resets.

Gas Tank

For motorized units, hopefully, you stored the unit with a full gas tank and some type of preservative.  If not, the gas tank can develop condensation and rust and you will need to change the fuel filter more often.  If you have not stored the unit with full fuel for the last few years, it might be a good idea to change the filter this spring.  Check your owner’s manual to see if you should change oil and filter before putting it in storage or after.  Always check all engine fluids and perform recommended maintenance on the chassis.

Lights

For both motorized and trailers, check all marker lights, brake/tail lights and others light for operation.

Tires

Check your tires for sidewall cracks (weather checking), bulges in the sidewall, or uneven lumps in the tread that would indicate a split in the steel belts.  Also look for any signs of irregular tread wear or even chunks of missing tread!  Check pressure and lug nut torque specification.  For trailers,  it’s a good time to have the bearings checked and repacked if necessary. Also for trailers, clean any rust off the trailer hitch and pin, lubricate to the manufacturer’s specification, connect the cord to a tow vehicle and test all the lights and especially the trailer brakes.  You can drive slowly and manually apply the brakes to verify they are working correctly.

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Water System

Hopefully, you removed the water heater plug and drained it or filled it with antifreeze.

Otherwise, your next step is to replace the water heater tank!  Ouch.  If your water heater is the type with an anode rod, inspect the rod to determine if it should be replaced.  Remove any antifreeze with fresh water throughout the system.  This is also a good time to disinfect and sanitize using a bleach and water solution.  Depending on your fresh water tank size, you can use about 1 qt bleach to 40 gallons of water and run it through the entire system.  This will sanitize and eliminate any stale odors.  There will be a slight bleach smell/taste which should dissipate shortly, however you can use the scented bleaches that will be less offensive, or the fresh water odor products from Thetford and others.

LP tanks

Open the LP tanks/cylinders slowly as the excess flow valve will shut the system down if pressure exceeds the normal flow.  This is common on DOT tanks used on trailers, 5th Wheels, and even residential grills.  This is a good time to check all connections and valves at LP appliances for leaks.  Get an approved leak test solution, not just soapy water as some detergents will start to disintegrate seals and gaskets!  Just dab some around all connections and look for bubbles.  If there are any present, shut the system off immediately and take it to a certified RVIA mechanic for inspection.

Excess flow

Awnings

It is also a good idea to open any slide rooms that have awnings and pull out your patio awning as it’s common to get condensation and moisture on the fabric/vinyl.  You may need to clean it with the appropriate cleaning solution for either fabric or vinyl.  Find your brand and model number and check the owner’s manual or website as there are specific cleaners and conditioners recommended.  You do not want to use the wrong cleaning solution on acrylic fabric will remove the waterproofing layer.  If the awning is clean but wet, let it dry before rewinding it as mold will form.

RV awning

LP Appliances

Next, you will need to bring all your LP appliances back on line such as the refrigerator, stove top, furnace, and water heater.  Keep in mind that you do not want to turn on the 120-Volt operation of the water heater without water in the tank or you will ruin the heating element.  I typically start with the stove top as the LP system needs to purge the air in the line and I can actually see the flame trying to start.

Usually, the refrigerator is close enough to the stove top that it will light with a few tries on the LP mode.  Same thing with the furnace and hopefully you won’t need it until the fall.

Air Out The Unit

Finally, air out the unit and look for any condensation that may have formed in cabinets or closets and clean it out.  You may want to add a little DampRid to remove the moisture.

To ensure you have easy access to this handy checklist every year, feel free to download, print, and share with your RVing friends.

 

About the author:

Dave Solberg: Managing Editor, RV Repair Club

For the last 25 years, Dave has conducted RV maintenance and safety seminars, developed dealer and owner training programs, written RV safety and handyman articles, authored an RV handbook reference guide and logged over 100,000 miles on the road in an RV.

RV Repair ClubRV Repair Club is your go-to online resource for enthusiasts who want quality RV maintenance, repair, and upgrade information – a community where passionate RVers can come together to gather knowledge and share their experiences.

Learn more about RV Repair Club.

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De-Winterizing Your RV

15 Wednesday Apr 2015

Posted by Coach-Net in Tech Tips, Tips & Tricks

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DeWinterizing-RVFor those of us who aren’t full-time RVers, it’s the time of year when our thoughts turn to the start of the camping season.  If you live in a cold climate, part of the coach prep routine includes de-winterizing. Although this process is more straightforward than winterizing, it is a good idea to remind ourselves of the basic steps. It is assumed that the winterization process was performed by filling the system with non-toxic anti-freeze and bypassing the water heater. These tips should work for any size and type RV.

  1. Make sure all RV water taps are fully closed.
  2. Ensure the water pump is turned off.
  3. Close, plug, or cap the fresh water tank drain.
  4. Cap the low point drains if applicable.
  5. Close the hot water tank drain valve or replace the anode rod or tank plug. Be sure to place thread sealant tape (PTFE tape) on the plug or rod prior to threading it into the hole. If you have an aluminum tank that does not use an anode rod, such as an Atwood, a plastic plug is recommended. If you place a steel plug into an aluminum tank (or vice-versa), an electrochemical reaction, called galvanic corrosion, between the different metals may cause the plug to seize into the hole. For steel tanks, do not substitute a plug for the anode rod, and replace the rod if it has significant erosion.
  6. Connect a potable water hose between a convenient household faucet and the RV fresh water connection.
  7. Turn on the water supply to the RV.
  8. Starting with the tap furthest away from the RV fresh water connection, slowly open the cold water tap so anti-freeze flows (usually pink in color). Note that the furthest fixture from the water connection may be an external tap.
  9. When there is no longer any anti-freeze in the line, turn off the cold water tap and repeat the process with the hot water tap.
  10. Repeat steps 8 & 9 with all remaining tap sets, including the lavatory.
  11. Close all taps and put at least a few inches of water in the fresh water tank. Add some RV water system freshener.
  12. Turn off the fresh water supply and turn on the water pump.
  13. Open any cold water tap for at least 20 seconds to purge anti-freeze in the pump line.
  14. Turn off the water pump and set the water heater bypass valve(s) to disable the bypass.
  15. Turn on the fresh water supply and allow the water heater to fill.
  16. Once the water heater is full, place a rag over the closest hot water tap and SLOWLY open it a small amount. There will be significant aeration from the hot water tank air space, so use the rag to contain the splashing. Do not open the tap fully until aeration is complete.
  17. Repeat step 16 with the other hot water taps until no aeration exists.
  18. Open the cold water taps once more to verify steady flow.
  19. Turn off the fresh water supply and pump and stow the hose.

Congratulations, the de-winterization process is complete, except for draining the holding tanks, which is most conveniently done at your first campsite of the season.

For your convenience, here is a print-ready checklist.

About the Author:

Coach-Net is pleased to welcome Steve Froese to our team of writers. Steve, an avid RV owner, traveler, and  Coach-Net member since 2013, is the principal of “A Word to the Wise Technical Communications”, a published RV author, certified RV technician, and licensed Professional Engineer. He frequently collaborates with the “RV Doctor”, Gary Bunzer, and has worked with the RVIA/RVDA as a technical and training writer and consultant. Professionally, he works as a quality engineer and musician. Watch for more of Steve’s work in upcoming Coach-Net publications.

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