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What To Know About The 2023 Florida RV Supershow

05 Wednesday Apr 2023

Posted by Coach-Net in RV Information, Tech Tips, Tips & Tricks

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The Florida RV Trade Association (FRVTA) Florida RV Supershow was held Jan 23-28, 2023 at the Florida State Fairgrounds in Tampa FL. It was estimated that over 79,000 people attended and I conducted a seminar each day of the show. It brought back memories as I also conducted seminars when I was working at Winnebago Industries over 25 years ago and WOW has it changed. Back then we were in a dusty old building with Lazy Days and the seminar was up in the grandstand seats!

This year we had a beautiful building with over 200 seats and it was air-conditioned! I had a modest crowd for the Tips For Choosing The Right RV on Wednesday and the crowd grew to over 200 Friday and Saturday. Sunday was back down to about 75 which makes it easier to ask more questions of the participants. And the attendees were there to buy, not only RVs but accessories as well. At times it was almost impossible to walk down the road and was impossible to get through the vendor buildings. But I did see a bunch of people walking out with generators, air conditioners, and almost every type of camping “must-have” from the vendors.

I went to the show last year and did a little research and this year we brought a production crew to interview RV manufacturers, equipment vendors, and many interesting product promotors.

Winnebago featured their Electric RV prototype the eRV2 built on a Ford Transit platform with an all-electric power train. We featured it in last month’s article. They also had their new National Park model Vista on display which comes in at 30’ so it’s easy to maneuver around the park and find a spot at the campgrounds.

The Solis is a smaller vehicle that we got a great walkaround from Nick, the Product Training Manager from the Southeast. It has a unique Overland Drawer feature that makes it easy to store and access gear, plug all terrain tires with standard Sumo Springs for a comfortable ride on rough roads.

Keep warm with the Truma Combi heating system and the 280 hp Dodge Ram platform can tow 3500 lbs. Stay dry camping longer with the two group 31 AGM batteries and 220-watt flexible solar panels mounted to the pop top.

Keystone RV introduced their new 5th Wheel with a front office floorplan!

The Montana was the hit of the show with a line of people coming in and out every day. With more people working from home, specifically taking their home on the road, this floorplan will be very popular as it has a dedicated office with a picture window. No more setting up on the dinette or bedroom fighting for space and quiet with others traveling with you.

One of the more interesting additions to the smaller model Class C and B Van market was the Wingamm built on a Fiat chassis.

This is an Italian company that has been in business since 1977 building a full fiberglass body they call monocoque design so it can not develop leaks. They have been building on various chassis platforms over the years such as Fiat, Mercedes, and Volkswagen, and with the new design Ducato chassis by Fiat has entered the US market with three models. It features a drop-down bed and compact design but there are only three distributors in the US. Still is kind of cool though.

Truma introduces AquaGo an instant hot water application with easy draining and cleaning. It has an exclusive decalcification system which extends the life of the unit especially since most of the water available at campsites is hard water. It provides a constant temperature and has an easy drain lever. New model installs can also get a recirculation kit for instant hot water throughout the coach.

Sumo Springs

For years, the standard chassis in Class A Gas and most Class C units have been a rock and roller coaster ride from the stock chassis. Sumo Springs is changing that and several manufacturers are offering standard on some models and optional on others. I have heard of these but have not gotten to do much testing but recently worked with one of the writers for RV Travel.com who had a terrible ride/drive on her F53 chassis and installed Sumo Springs and other enhancements. California RV Specialists has also installed quite a few of these and their customers love them. They are not rubber or metal, but rather made of a micro-cellular polyurethane poured into a mold to reduce rear-end sag, decrease vibration, and what we call porpoising or bouncing down the road. Pictured below is a set for a 2015 F53 which we are currently working on and will install a set this summer. Look for that article later.

What show review would be complete without including Lippert and their Lippert Scouts program. They had one entire end of the Vendor Building with their Lippert Scouts trailer, a stage for seminars from their Lippert Scout Ambassadors, and a campground setting with a ton of products. A new product that was being introduced was the wireless LP tank level gauge and the inside temperature gauge.

Both gauges have a sensor that mounts to the bottom of the tank in the LP product and hangs in the refrigerator for the temperature sensor and the One Control App on your phone provides the information on the LP level and the temperature.

Rust Inhibitor

For years I was a WD-40 man until I found the issues with it actually wiping off the lubricant that was designed for dump valve stems and hydraulic pistons. I came across a product called Fluid Film which is a great rust inhibitor and cleaner but it smells really bad!

At the show, I came across Bioshield T9 which many of our readers have been writing to us about. I got a sample and brought it back to try and have been very pleased with the lubricating performance. It will take a while to see how well it does with rust especially since it’s below zero most of the time currently! According to the website they have been working with Boeing for over 40 years to develop a more reliable metal protector and lubricant that could withstand prolonged environmental exposure. They claim it penetrates better, displaces moisture, and dissolves minor corrosion through the combination of unique waxes and solvents. Our readers have been very impressed with it as well.

As with all shows, there was a variety of attendees with the most unusual being Max the potbelly pig.

I think his fur baby buddy was thinking; “Do I smell bacon?”

Another feature was the abundance of strollers but it was a guessing game, baby or puppy?

Most of them were puppies, this one stopped at the Coach-Net tent to say how much he loved RVing!

And finally, we went “Live” from the Lippert Scout Trailer Thursday evening for the Talkin’ RV Tech event and had an hour of questions from not only our participants via the YouTube and Facebook channels but also from our Live audience outside the trailer at the Lippert Theater.


About the author: Dave Solberg: Managing Editor, RV Repair Club

For the last 25 years, Dave has conducted RV maintenance and safety seminars, developed dealer and owner training programs, written RV safety and handyman articles authored an RV handbook reference guide, and logged over 100,000 miles on the road in an RV.

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RV Oven And Stove Top Maintenance and Troubleshooting

01 Wednesday Dec 2021

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When I was traveling full time in a Winnebago motorhome training dealers across the country, the stovetops and ovens were pretty simple and there were only a couple of models, Magic Chef, and Atwood. But just like everything else in the RV industry dozens of models have come and gone over the years and today, there are dozens of brands available such as Furrion, Recpro, Suburban, and Dometic which now owns Atwood which also owns Wedgewood, and many more.

A major shift in the industry that I have noticed in the past decade is the use of more residential appliances and furnishing especially since the slide rooms provide more space for the larger items such as residential refrigerators and electric stovetops and ovens although they take an enormous amount of electricity so the old propane models are still the majority that I have seen.

For this article, we will focus on the propane model stovetop and oven combination. The first step in any appliance maintenance and troubleshooting is to understand the operation and lighting sequence. Your main LP regulator at the LP container will reduce the pressure supplied to the rig to 11” of the water column. Most RV stovetops and ovens have an internal regulator that will reduce that down to 10” of water column to a manifold. This manifold has the control knob attached to it and in the case of the stovetop, delivers LP to the burner assembly. The rate of flame or temperature is regulated by the operator turning the knob to the desired height. In the case of the oven, the temperature is set at the knob and a thermostat regulates the flow of LP to the desired temperature to the burner tube.

The oven pilot must be lit before the burner assemble will light. Typically pressing the oven knob in will supply lp to the pilot assembly which must be lit manually and stay lit for at least 30 seconds until the flame reaches and heats the thermocoupler. This pushes a magnet in which is a safety feature in case the flame goes out. The thermostat senses temperature and some models have a temperature bulb in the back of the oven called a mini bulb. Once the thermocouple senses a flame, LP flows to the burner assembly and is lit by the pilot light. If the flame and the pilot light go out, the magnet drops and shut off LP to the oven. The thermostat senses temperature from the temperature bulb in the back of the oven.

For the stovetop, simply press in and turn the knob and turn the ignitor if your model has one, or manually light the burner with a long match or butane stick lighter. Keep in mind the burner assembly does not have a thermocoupler so the LP will continue to flow if the knob is open and there is no flame! I have leaned against a knob in units and smelled the distinct rotten egg smell in the past! Make sure the knob is in the off and locked position when not in use.

Stovetop Maintenance

Compared to other appliances, there is little maintenance required with an LP stovetop/oven combination other than keeping it clean. Some stovetop models have a sealed burner assembly which means the metal cover comes all the way around the burner so food can not spill over into the burner area. Periodically inspect the burner orifice to ensure nothing is spilled over and clogging which can affect performance or even start on fire.

Troubleshooting The Stove Top

If the stovetop will not light with the piezo or spark assist, verify there is LP coming to the burner by trying to light it manually with a butane lighter. If it lights, the piezo is either defective or has a cracked ceramic case which will send the spark through the crack rather than to the burner. Visually inspect the piezo for spark attempt.

If the burner does not light manually and has no LP flowing to the burner check another burner to verify LP flow. If there is LP flow to another burner, check the supply tube to the affected burner and clean. If not, check to make sure the knob is actually opening on the stovetop and the valve is on at the LP container. Often times there is an in-line shut-off valve to LP appliances that should also be checked. If all these steps are verified, check another LP appliance to verify the main regulator is working properly. If it is, there is an issue with the LP supply line to the stovetop. Some models have an air shutter that can be adjusted. Check with your owner’s manual. It is also a good idea to check connections for leaks with an approved LP leak solution. Do not use soap and water as some detergents can cause corrosion to the metal.

If the burner lights, but the flame is yellow and “jumping” the LP pressure is too high and needs to be tested and adjusted by a certified technician with a water column tester first at the stovetop regulator and then the main LP regulator at the container.

If the burner lights but the flame is too small, verify the knob is actually turning to the higher position first, then check for insufficient pressure again by a certified technician. If other burners are working correctly, clean the supply tube or replace the knob/valve.

Troubleshooting The Oven

If the pilot does not light, check for leaks at the pilot supply tube, check LP pressure at the oven regulator, and then the main LP container regulator. Inspect and clean the pilot assembly to ensure LP is flowing to the pilot. If the pilot lights but does not stay lit after 30 seconds verify the thermocoupler is positioned properly and the flame is reaching it.

If the pilot stays lit but the oven will not light, verify LP flow to the burner assembly and adjust the air shutter if applicable. Also, have LP pressure tested by a certified technician with a water column tester.

If the oven lights, but has low flame and low temperature, test LP pressure at the regulator and burner assembly. Low pressure at the burner assembly would indicate a valve not opening.

If the oven has low temperatures or uneven heat it may be as simple as poor air circulation inside the oven. There must be at least 1” space on all sides from items cooking inside the oven. There are also ventilation holes at the bottom that can get clogged with food drippings and must be cleaned out as well as the top vents. Do not cover the bottom of the racks with aluminum foil to catch drippings! Check your owner’s manual for specifics to your model.

Intermittent Operation of Both

If the stovetop and or oven work for a short period of time but then fail, it could either be insufficient LP pressure or low 12-volt power. This is what we call “gremlins” during troubleshooting as they sometimes can not be replicated in the service department! All LP appliances need 12-volt DC power to open gas valves and run the thermostats. This power is supplied by the deep cycle house batteries which are also supplying other appliances and items like lights and fans. If the batteries are sulfated or the converter/charger can not keep up, the battery bank drains down and will shut off the LP supply at the valve. Typically this only happens with the oven as it has the thermocoupler and thermostat.

If your main LP container regulator is getting weak, it might be able to supply enough pressure (11” WC) to the stovetop/oven regulator however if the water heater or refrigerator kicks in, the regulator might not be able to provide enough LP pressure to all the appliances? This would require using a pressure tester and turning on several appliances at once to verify proper pressure during extreme use situations.


About the author: Dave Solberg: Managing Editor, RV Repair Club

For the last 25 years, Dave has conducted RV maintenance and safety seminars, developed dealer and owner training programs, written RV safety and handyman articles, authored an RV handbook reference guide and logged over 100,000 miles on the road in an RV.

RV Repair Club

RV Repair Club is your go-to online resource for enthusiasts who want quality RV maintenance, repair and upgrade information – a community where passionate RVers can come together to gather knowledge and share their experiences.

Learn more about RV Repair Club.

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Exterior Care And Maintenance  Part 1: The Roof

03 Wednesday Feb 2021

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Exterior Care And Maintenance  Part 1: The Roof

A thorough inspection and maintenance plan of the exterior of your rig is important not only for looks but for longevity as well.  Sealants can become hard and cracked due to exposure to the sun and other elements which can also cause leaks and expensive damage.  Fiberglass and other materials can fade and crack due to UV exposure.   The first step is a visual inspection of all roof and sidewall materials, sealants, windows, tires, and vents.  Conduct a walk around to assess any damage or specific areas that may need more attention.

Roof Maintenance

Each year, the roof material of your RV should be cleaned, inspected, and conditioned properly according to the manufacturer’s recommendation.  First, identify the type of material used for the exterior covering of your rig.  Years ago manufacturer’s used aluminum skin then in the mid 1980’s there was a shift by many to either fiberglass or a rubber membrane known as EPDM.  There are several products on the market that can be used to clean these materials even some designed specifically for EPDM and TPO.  My favorite is Dawn Dish Soap and water, the blue version as it’s great on bird dropping and tree sap, but environmentally friendly.  Remember the footage of duck’s in Alaska getting a bath?  Alpha Systems material is a rubberized component with a fleece backing and they recommend using Murphy’s Oil Soap and water.

Once you identify the material and the proper cleaner, get a soft-bristled brush on a pole, 3 gallons or larger bucket, hose with sprayer, and a ladder.  You typically do not need a high-pressure sprayer which can also be dangerous with the kickback of a spray gun.

**BE CAREFUL WALKING ON THE ROOF!**

Make sure your rig can handle the weight, if not you will need to wash from the side using a scaffold or other device.  Stay away from vents and other openings as these may be weak areas.  Also, be careful about wet surfaces and a slippery roof.  I like to use a good tennis shoe that provides the best traction and oftentimes stay on my hands and knees for better stability!  Take extra precaution and use a tether or safety harness if possible.

Place the rig in a shaded area or wash during overcast as the sun will dry things in a hurry and could leave soap residue.  Wet the side of the rig down before washing and have someone keep it wet while you wash the roof if possible as the sides will dry with soap and cause a huge mess from dust, soap, and even roof material chaulking.  Pour the cleaner into the bucket and mix it in according to the directions.  With Dawn, I typically squeeze about 4-5 seconds of product into a 3-gallon bucket then fill it with water.

The rig should be at a slight angle away from the ladder, I place the rig front down on the driveway so I can climb up the back ladder, start from the front and work back.  This way the soap and water keep running to the front as I walk to the back and I’m typically on dry material the entire time.

Start with a small 4’x4’ area in the front corner and wet it down with the hose first.  Use the brush and cleaner to scrub the area and remove bird droppings or other material then rinse.  Using the pattern listed below, you can clean the entire roof, stay on dry material, and end up back at the ladder to get down.

Front Cap

slide out This is also a good time to clean the top of any slide rooms or the awning if there is one available.  Check with your awning manufacturer for recommended cleaning products and conditioners.

RV Roof

After you are done rinsing the entire roof, let it dry completely and then visually inspect all the seams, sealant, and vents.  Look for cracks in the sealant, separation of the front cap to the main roof material, cracks in roof vent covers, and any tears or cracking of roof material.  If you do find some suspect areas you will want to add additional sealant or better yet remove the old sealant with a heat gun and plastic scraper and apply new sealant.  Make sure you get the sealant designed for the roof material you are applying to.  Plain silicone will not stick to most fiberglass surfaces and you will have leaks.  For flat surfaces, you will want to use a self-leveling lap sealant such as the Dicor product or other approved product.

Silicone

Another product that has been very popular for many years with RVers is Etnernabond sealant tape.  You will need to clean and prime the roof material before applying but it’s an easy fix.

Sealant Tape

If you have an older style “batwing” crank-up antenna, check not only the sealant but the gear mechanism and coax.  It’s a good idea to apply a small amount of graphite lubricant to make it go up and down easier and not attract grit.

RV Roof

If your refrigerator has a roof vent to allow heat to escape, it’s a good idea to remove the cover and inspect the open or “flue”.  It will have a screen mesh covering it to keep critters from getting in and can catch dust, leaves, and other items that will clog it and keep the refrigerator from running efficiently.  If it is dirty, clean it or use a shop vacuum to clean it.  Do not clean with an air compressor as this will push dust down the cavity and into the rig.

If you have a roof air conditioner it is important to check the foam gasket between the roof and the AC unit.  Do not run silicone around the perimeter as condensation from the evaporator coils needs to run off the roof.  Remove the cover inside the rig at the air return and you should see 4 spring-loaded bolts that keep the unit snug to the roof.  This is also a good time to inspect the evaporator coils to ensure they are clean and have good airflow going through them.

Here is an example of an evaporator coil clogged with body powder!  This unit was ruined and needed a new AC.  Once you remove the cover, check the filter and vacuum out any dust or obstructions on the coils.

Stay tuned for Part 2 of our Exterior Care & Maintenance blog where we’ll talk through how to care for your fiberglass sidewalls, decals, and tires!


About the author: Dave Solberg: Managing Editor, RV Repair Club

For the last 25 years, Dave has conducted RV maintenance and safety seminars, developed dealer and owner training programs, written RV safety and handyman articles, authored an RV handbook reference guide and logged over 100,000 miles on the road in an RV.

RV Repair ClubRV Repair Club is your go-to online resource for enthusiasts who want quality RV maintenance, repair and upgrade information – a community where passionate RVers can come together to gather knowledge and share their experiences.

Learn more about RV Repair Club.


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