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How and Why to Install an External Propane Kit on your Motorhome

29 Monday Mar 2021

Posted by Coach-Net in Tech Tips, Tips & Tricks

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Propane Safety, Propane System, RV Camping Tips, RV Propane, RV Protect, RV tech tip, RV Tips

There are many reasons to choose one type of RV over another. People that opt for a motorhome may do so because they offer many convenient features. An auto-leveling system, climate control while driving, and a built-in generator are all pros of getting a motorhome. One drawback to owning a motorhome RVers can quickly discover is that the propane tank is not removable. Instead of detaching the propane tank and taking it to the closest Tractor Supply to fill, you must drive the entire motorhome there.

For those camping in colder locations or wishing to stay in one place for several weeks, it can be a pain to have to move the whole motorhome every time the propane runs low. Fortunately, there is a product for that. External propane kits are easy to install and readily available. They not only give you the ability to hook up external propane tanks to your motorhome, but some also have ports that allow for you to hook up gas grills, so you don’t have to go through those disposable 1lb bottles.

How does it work?

Camco Propane Brass 4 Port Tee- Comes with 5ft and 12ft Hoses listed on Amazon.

The main component of a propane kit is the brass tee. It is called a tee because it allows propane from your main tank to flow to your propane regulator in a straight line but has a port in the middle that you can fit a hose to making a “T” shape. Most models will have a one-way valve either in the tee itself or the external propane hose. This valve allows propane to flow from the external tank but not the other direction.

Where do you get one?

Most RV parts stores will carry them, and you can order them online from places like Amazon or Walmart. You can purchase just the tee for about $40 or the entire kit with hoses at $60 to $80. From personal experience, I have found that the 5’ hose (that comes with most of these kits) is a little short. Sometimes I want the tanks on the opposite side of the RV. For that reason, I have opted to purchase a 12’ propane hose.

Camco 59035 12′ Propane Supply Hose

How do you install it?

This is the regulator attached to the motorhome propane tank. Notice the notches on the screw. That means it’s threaded backward.

The first step to installing a brass tee is to make sure your propane is off. Once the propane is off, you will want to disconnect the regulator of the propane tank. Keep in mind that a POL propane connector is threaded backward. Instead of “righty tighty, lefty loosey,” it’s the opposite of that.

This is the regulator removed from the main tank.

Next, you will want to remove the regulator from the main tank output. The brass tee will go in between the regulator and the tank. It is vital for the proper function that the tee be installed before the regulator. If it is somehow installed downline from it, your propane system won’t function and could pose a hazard because the external tank pressure will not be regulated when it does through the system.

Screw the brass tee into the tank, and then screw the regulator into the tee. You may have noticed the fittings have O-rings on them and therefore do not need any thread seal tape.

I used a ⅞ wrench to screw the regulator into the brass tee.

The last steps are to attach the propane hose and then screw the hose onto a propane tank. It’s important to note that though there are no O-rings, the fitting here is a flair fitting. It is designed to seal without thread seal tape.

Here is the hose connected. You may notice the thread seal tape at the top, but where the hose connects, there isn’t any.

Connect the other end of the hose to a propane tank.

Once everything is connected, keep the motorhome propane tank off and turn on the external tank. It may be a good idea to check for leaks at this time. Many people use soapy water in a spray bottle and spray it over all the connections. If you see bubbles coming out, there is a leak.

They also make propane leak detector spray that claims to be non-corrosive. Some customers say that it works better. I use the leak detector spray because it’s in a convenient bottle, it’s about $5, and it can last several years. It works the same way, spray it on all connections and see if there are any bubbles.

Camco 10324 Gas Leak Detector with Sprayer – 8 oz – from Amazon

Once you have tested for leaks, try the stove. It can take a moment for the stove to light if there is any air in the lines. If you would like to see a video demonstration on installing a brass tee, check out the video below.

Any more tips?

When you move the propane regulator over, you may find that it no longer fits and hangs over the shelf. If that’s the case, you may want to find a way to elongate the shelf to keep road debris out of the regulator.

There are many ways to do this, but I went to Home Depot and found a couple of metal plates that I could bolt onto the existing shelf to extend it. If you plan on removing the brass tee before moving the rig, you won’t have to do this, but if you leave it on, you will want to protect the regulator.

Here are the two overlapping Simpson Strong-Tie TP 3-1/8 in. x 7 in. 20-Gauge Galvanized Tie Plates I used to extend the platform that the regulator sits on.

The next tip is one of safety. Propane can be dangerous to work with, and if you don’t feel comfortable installing this yourself, it should be easy to get an RV tech to do it for you. Always keep propane safety in mind.


About The Author: Levi Henley

Levi Henley and his wife, Natalie, have been full-time RVers for over 5 years. They have also been Coach-Net customers for the same amount of time.  They travel and workcamp around the U.S. in their 26-foot Itasca Sunstar motorhome with their two cats.  They write for multiple RV-related publications and recently co-wrote “Seasonal Workamping for a Living: How We Did It.” You can follow their adventures on the road at henleyshappytrails.com 

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Dealing with an RV Emergency

06 Wednesday Jul 2016

Posted by Coach-Net in RV Safety

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CO Monitor, emergency exits, FIre Extinguishers, Propane Cylinders, Propane Safety, RV Life, RV Safety, Safety, Smoke Detectors, Travel Safety

RV emergencyRecreational vehicles are very safe as long as owners follow general guidelines and don’t neglect their rigs. This article will cover a few safety-related topics.

Propane Safety

As an engineering professional experienced in dealing with LP (Liquefied Petroleum) gas, I can attest to its safety. However, the caveat is that it is imperative that your propane system be thoroughly inspected each season. If yours is in good condition with no damaged components or leaks, and is set to the correct operating pressure, it will provide safe and reliable service. However, if you fail to have it regularly inspected, bad things can happen, possibly leading to vehicle damage, injury, and/or death! By having a certified RV technician inspect your propane system every camping season, you are ensuring your coach is as safe as possible. If the dealership is reluctant to return your unit to you without certain repairs, please have them perform the repair, even if it is expensive.travel trailer with propane The dealership is not trying to hold your coach “hostage”, they are simply trying to ensure the safety of your family and those around you.

If you use propane cylinders, such as those on travel trailers and fifth-wheels, they must be re-certified every ten years. Therefore, if you have a cylinder older than this, a fueling depot should refuse to fill it. They are required instead to replace the cylinder, which will often be with a refurbished one. In the case of a permanently mounted propane tank, like those mounted on motorhomes, there is no such requirement. However, during inspection, the RV technician will ensure there is no significant rust on the tank and the mounting bolts and brackets are intact.

Although propane is inherently safe, there are two schools of thought regarding traveling with propane turned on. It is important to follow state and provincial regulations. Many places do not allow propane containers to be opened while traveling, so be sure to “know before you go” and adhere to local laws.

Detectors and Fire Extinguishers

Be sure to have working LP, carbon monoxide (CO), and smoke detectors, and test them regularly. These are your last line of defense and best early warning system! Carbon monoxide is a toxic, odorless and colorless gas created as a result of incomplete combustion in LP appliances. Fire ExtinguisherIf your CO or LP detector goes off, turn off all appliances, exit the vehicle immediately, and turn off the propane source. Have your propane system checked before using it again.

Know where your fire extinguisher is located, and be sure to have it inspected or replaced every few years. Most RVs have the extinguisher located near the exit door. You may choose to add additional ones in the kitchen and bedroom. If you have a rear diesel RV, consider investing in an engine bay fire suppression system. Although they can be expensive, they can also prevent engine fires.

Finally, know the location of your emergency exits and practice using them! This is not something that is normally discussed, but in the case of an RV emergency, precious seconds can be saved and panic may be avoided if emergency egress methods have been practiced. Make sure the exits are not blocked on the inside or outside of the coach. For instance, if your exit is a rear window and you have a chair or bike rack, make sure these are emptied and removed once you make camp.

About the Author: 

Steve Froese, an avid RV owner, traveler, and Coach-Net member since 2013, is the principal of “A Word to the Wise Technical Communications”, a published RV author, certified RV technician, and licensed Professional Engineer. He frequently collaborates with the “RV Doctor”, Gary Bunzer, and has worked with the RVIA/RVDA as a technical and training writer and consultant. Professionally, he works as a quality engineer and musician. Watch for more of Steve’s work in upcoming Coach-Net publications.

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Your Propane System

20 Wednesday Jan 2016

Posted by Coach-Net in Tech Tips

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Butane, LP, Propane Safety, Propane System, RV Propane, tech tip

Propane-System
Most RV owners understand the basics of their coach propane system. This article will introduce some additional detail about how the propane system works, starting with some terminology. “LP” is an acronym for “Liquefied Petroleum”. Propane and Butane are the primary hydrocarbons in the Liquefied Petroleum family.

Propane-CylinderA frequently misused term is “tank”. By definition, propane tanks are those permanently mounted on an RV such as a motorhome. If the container is temporarily mounted such that it can be removed for filling, it is referred to as a cylinder (refer to figures 1 and 2). Therefore, the generic term is “container”,which applies to both tanks and cylinders.

Both propane and butane mixtures can be used in an RV, and LP dealers in North America may use either or a mixture of both. The differences are largely unimportant except when it comes to temperature. Butane has a vaporization temperature of approximately 32 degrees F, whereas propane is approximately -40 degrees F. Vaporization temperature is the temperature at which the liquid in the container turns to gas (vapor). This is important because RV appliances only use the vapor (with the possible exception of the LP generator). If it is too cold outside and you have a higher butane mixture in your container, the liquid may have a problem maintaining a high enough vaporization rate. If you have problems with your burners in cold weather, you should consider having your container refilled with an LP mixture containing a higher propane concentration.

Propane Safety

Modern propane tanks and cylinders have built-in safety devices that prevent containers from being overfilled, as well as excess flow valves that prevent gas flow if a high-pressure hose is damaged. Always ensure that cylinders are filled by weight and tanks are filled by volume. Make sure that the filling attendant always opens the vent valve on a cylinder or the liquid drain valve on a tank so the container is never overfilled. Even though there is an overfill protection device (OPD), it is possible for it to fail, in which case the vent/liquid drain valve will give a visual indication that the container is full.Propane-tank

It is important to have your RV propane system inspected annually. This should be performed only by a qualified RV dealership. The technician will check for and adjust to proper operating pressure and regulator function, ensure there are no leaks in the LP system, perform a thorough inspection of all gas appliances, and complete any required repairs. The proper operating pressure of an RV propane system is 11 inches of water, which is measured using a special low-pressure gauge called a manometer. The technician will also check to make sure the regulator properly locks up at a pressure of no more than 14 inches of water. In many jurisdictions, it is not legal for a licensed dealership to release an RV with propane system defects to an owner without the defects being fully and properly repaired. Therefore, be aware that if your RV is found to have problems with the LP system, you will likely not have a choice but to have the problem fixed. This may include replacing components or entire appliances, possibly resulting in a significant outlay of cash. Although the repair may be expensive, it ensures that your RV is safe to operate. Remember that propane is a very safe gas as long as it is maintained in good condition by a professional technician.

For an additional look into your RV propane system, be sure to watch this video from our friends at RV Repair Club.

Propane-video

About the Author: 

Steve Froese, an avid RV owner, traveler, and Coach-Net member since 2013, is the principal of “A Word to the Wise Technical Communications”, a published RV author, certified RV technician, and licensed Professional Engineer. He frequently collaborates with the “RV Doctor”, Gary Bunzer, and has worked with the RVIA/RVDA as a technical and training writer and consultant. Professionally, he works as a quality engineer and musician. Watch for more of Steve’s work in upcoming Coach-Net publications.

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