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Leveling And Stabilizing Are Important For More Than Comfort

03 Wednesday Nov 2021

Posted by Coach-Net in Tech Tips

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RV leveling, RV leveling Tips, RV Life, RV Stabilizing Jacks, RV tech tip, RV Tips, RV travel, tech tip, Travel Tips


Levelers, stabilizers, leveling jacks, scissor jacks, chocks, there are almost as many names for devices that level and stabilize as there are products available. However, these products play an important part in not only leveling and stabilizing your rig but also helping with structural integrity and proper appliance performance!

Leveling Jacks

Most RV owners are familiar with leveling jacks and there are have been several brands over the years. HWH and Power Gear were the big names in hydraulic leveling jacks in the 1990s and 2000s and were powerful enough to lift the tires off the ground of a 22,000 lb diesel pusher.

Lippert Components Inc (LCI) has purchased Power Gear as well as several lighter weight leveling jack providers such as Kwikee that had an electric system and have several of their own LCI brands. The important thing to remember about whatever type of leveling jack you have or are going to install is that they are doing more than just leveling your rig for a comfortable night’s sleep.

In my early days at Winnebago, we tested chassis’, welded foundations, and finished motorhomes on sine wave test tracks as well as computerized pads to determine what type of stress would be applied to various components in an unlevel situation or excess road vibration. At the time we were testing various slide room mechanisms and did over 14,000 extensions and retractions and what we found was in an unlevel condition, not only does the chassis/floor twists but the sidewall does as well and the room has resistance and eventually had created issues with operation. With that, all units with a slide room had leveling jacks as standard equipment.

Back when HWH was “THE” hydraulic leveling jack provider they designed a joystick extension and retraction pad that would only allow a bilateral extension procedure. The photo above is from a 2003 Winnebago Brave and you can see the top and bottom levers would control the front and back jacks. You would push those from center to activate and the center lever extended and retract the jacks in the direction you pushed the lever and it would always extend two jacks in a bilateral direction only. This meant if you pushed the lever forward, the two front jacks would extend, down meant the two back jacks would extend, and side to side following suit. This was designed to reduce the stress of extending one jack on an uneven spot and twisting the chassis. The system also had a pressure-sensitive feature so as you extended the two jacks in whatever direction, they both would come down and if one hit the ground before the other, it would pause until the other hit the ground and raise the coach evenly. This eliminated any twisting in the chassis and ultimately in the sidewall, slide rooms, and other areas of structural importance.

While developing a training program, we put one front tire of a standard chassis on a 12” car ramp to show the twist that occurs on a chassis. We saw that the compartment doors and entrance doors popped open. Yes, this is extreme however imagine what just a slight unlevel condition of 3-4” would do in a campground to the structure of your rig! I have gotten numerous photos of rigs that have the sidewall material shifted from the trim over the years.

So the importance of leveling is keeping the structural integrity of the chassis, flooring, and sidewall in a level plane which will allow the slide rooms to operate without stress and limit the stress on the sidewall to roof structure as well.

One last note on leveling the rig, your absorption refrigerator needs to be level to allow the coolant solution to flow back down to the boiler assembly through the zig-zag tubing. We have covered that many times before.

Stabilizing

Even after all that work of leveling your rig, it might not be stable which means a rock and roll situation that is much more than just annoying! Tires are inflated with air to provide a smooth cushion while driving but are not meant for providing stability when stationary. The four-point leveling jacks do provide superior stabilization, however, most of the other systems could use some assistance. For instance, if you have scissor jacks, they help level smaller rigs and keep them from tipping front to back but provide poor stabilization.

In fact, without additional support and wheel chocking, these can be damaged easily. Most trailer owners add some type of leg support for stability or even wheel stabilizers.

5th wheels pose a larger problem with the long overhead in the front that can get a little spongy and even cause some issues with structural integrity.

These are photos of a unit that has shifted considerably and now has very expensive repairs needed. It’s best to level and stabilize the rig and many 5th wheel owners also add support to the kingpin with a tripod support.

Some even add some additional side-to-side support for the larger rigs.

In addition, every technical support rep and engineer that I have talked with recommends leveling and stabilizing the rig before extending and retracting the slide room. If the rig is out of level and not stabilized, the chassis will shift, the floor will twist, and the sidewall will twist meaning you are trying to extend a square room in a twisted hole and will have resistance.


About the author: Dave Solberg: Managing Editor, RV Repair Club

For the last 25 years, Dave has conducted RV maintenance and safety seminars, developed dealer and owner training programs, written RV safety and handyman articles, authored an RV handbook reference guide and logged over 100,000 miles on the road in an RV.

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RV Repair Club is your go-to online resource for enthusiasts who want quality RV maintenance, repair and upgrade information – a community where passionate RVers can come together to gather knowledge and share their experiences.

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Leveling Jack Maintenance

06 Thursday Feb 2020

Posted by Coach-Net in RV Information, Tech Tips, Tips & Tricks

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Leveling Blocks, Leveling Your RV, RV leveling, RV tech tips, Tech Tips

Leveling Jack Maintenance

There are several types of leveling/stabilizing systems available for RVs starting with very inexpensive, manual scissor jacks all the way up to the cream of the crop automatic hydraulic levelers.  These jacks level the rig which is important for comfort while sleeping but also to ensure the refrigerator is level and the solution of hydrogen, water, ammonia, and sodium chromate in the cooling unit can make its way back to the boiler vessel.  Both Norcold and Dometic require the cooling unit to be level 6 degrees side to side and 3 degrees front to back otherwise it will pool in a corner and start to heat up and eventually block the flow. A bubble level can be used to ensure the unit is in an acceptable level position.

Leveling Jack

Bubble Level

Manual Jack Maintenance

The jacks are also used to stabilize a rig which keeps it from rocking back and forth while walking through the unit.  The constant banging of mini blinds can be very annoying!

Maintenance on jacks is minor, especially the manual jacks as there are no motors, electronics, or hydraulic fluid to check.  These jacks simply require an occasional inspection and lubrication of the pivot points.

Manual Jack

Most manufacturers recommend using a silicone spray, however, Fluid Film is one of the best lubricants and rust inhibitors available.  Look for twisted or binding arms, stripped threads, and loose bolts at the connection.

Silicone Spray

Electric Jack Maintenance

Another model of leveling and stabilizing jack is the electric such as the Lippert Components Inc (LCI) shown here. The only maintenance required on the mechanical components is inspection and cleaning if the legs and pivot points get dirty or rusted.  They do not recommend any lubrication as this may cause additional damage due to dust and dirt collecting on the lubricant!  For electrical maintenance, they require a fully charged house battery, visual inspection of the motor and wiring to ensure nothing is hanging below the rig subject to getting caught while driving, and inspection and cleaning of any connections.  This can be done with emery cloth and electrical contact cleaner available at most parts stores.

Electric Jack

Hydraulic jacks do require a little more maintenance and inspection as they have electrical connections, hydraulic motor and lines, and mechanical components.  HWH has been used for many years on larger rigs with manual lever operation and automatic.  They recommend cleaning the leveler cylinder with soap and water and then spray with WD 40 and wiping off the excess.  This is not recommended by any other hydraulic jack manufacturer!  They also recommend checking the hydraulic fluid level in the reservoir periodically and adding Dexron III ATF if needed.  The fluid should be red and changed if it is murky, milky white, or pink.

Hydraulic Jack

All electrical connections should be inspected and cleaned if necessary, and loose wires secured.  All hydraulic hoses should be inspected periodically for leaks, wear, and tear, as well as all swagged fittings.  The manifold of the motor should also be inspected for leaks.  Also, inspect the springs for proper fit and to ensure they are still connected.

Other hydraulic leveling systems such as Kwikee and the LCI Ground Control have a similar maintenance recommendation.  Check the system twice a year for leaks, fluid level with the jacks retracted, and all electrical connections checked and cleaned if necessary.  If the cylinder is corroded or dirty, clean with soap and water and lubricate with silicone lubrication and wipe off any excess.  DO NOT USE WD 40!  Also, check all mounting bolts to make sure they are secure as well as any damage to the cylinder or mounting hardware!

Hydraulic Jack

If the jacks are extended in an extreme unlevel situation, the weight of the rig can apply undue pressure on the jacks and mounting brackets and cause damage.  Visually inspect all components and contact a certified service center if you encounter such damage!

When using the jacks in extremely cold temperatures, the hydraulic system may run slow.  Most manufacturers recommend replacing the fluid with a synthetic brand or winter weight.  Check your owner’s manual for recommendations for your rig.

EZ Block

Additional Tips

It may be necessary to use an assist such as a block of wood or after-market jack block to prevent the jack from being extended to far.  This also helps to stabilize the rig better as the cylinder is now supported more by the jack housing.

When storing the vehicle, most manufacturers indicate it is ok to leave the jacks extended during the storage period.  However, since they will be exposed to the elements, it is recommended to clean and lubricate them when bringing the rig out of storage.  As mentioned earlier, check with your owner’s manual for the proper lubricant.


About the author: Dave Solberg: Managing Editor, RV Repair Club

For the last 25 years, Dave has conducted RV maintenance and safety seminars, developed dealer and owner training programs, written RV safety and handyman articles, authored an RV handbook reference guide and logged over 100,000 miles on the road in an RV.

RV Repair ClubRV Repair Club is your go-to online resource for enthusiasts who want quality RV maintenance, repair and upgrade information – a community where passionate RVers can come together to gather knowledge and share their experiences.

Learn more about RV Repair Club.


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A Whole New Level

17 Tuesday Mar 2015

Posted by Coach-Net in RV Information, Tech Tips

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RV, RV Camping, RV leveling, RV Tips, tech tip, tips

 

A Whole New LevelMany readers are probably familiar with the process of manual coach leveling; find the most level spot on the pad, use bubble levels to monitor which corners need to go up and by how much, lay down the ramps (these days, plastic ramps of adjustable heights are available), drive the coach onto the blocks to the appropriate height, and move the coach if the height is not correct.   It can be a painstaking process, especially when a travel trailer or fifth-wheel is involved. Three- or four-point hydraulic leveling systems make the task of leveling your motorhome a walk in the park, with some systems even performing the task automatically.

RV LevelingWhether your RV has hydraulic levellers or manual jacks, carrying jack pads, with dimensions slightly larger than the jack foot is recommended. Center a pad under each jack foot prior to lowering it all the way to the ground. This will help protect the ground surface, whether it’s dirt, grass, or concrete. This is especially important with blacktop, as it is very easy for RV jacks to damage blacktop, especially in the case of hydraulic jacks. Using blocks will also further distribute the weight being exerted on each jack foot, minimizing the possibility of the jack(s) sinking into the ground. Hydraulic levelling jacks are generally single-acting, which means that, although hydraulic pressure is used to lower the jack, spring force is used to retract it. Once in a while a jack will get stuck in the mud or soft soil because the spring force is not enough to pull it out. Jack pads help prevent this from happening. Also remember that if you use stabilizing jacks like those shown at the right with a travel or pop-up trailer, be sure to use them for stabilizing only and do not try to level a trailer with them, as they are not strong enough.

Leveling Your RVBut why do we go to the trouble of making sure our recreational vehicles are absolutely level? Aside from the obvious fact that we want to be comfortable while living in the RV, some believe it is also important for the fridge to be totally level. This last point is actually not strictly true. In the early days of absorption refrigeration, the burner and gravity process utilized by the technology was much less mature than it is today. Back then, if the fridge wasn’t extremely level, it tended not to work very well. Now, absorption technology has evolved to the point where the vehicle doesn’t have to be as level as it used to be. Simply stated, these days, it is a generally held view that if you are comfortable in your RV, your fridge will be as well. Given the popularity of hydraulic levelling systems (even available in Class B vans), as well as the increasing occurrence of level RV sites across all park types, the requirement for painstaking levelling of an RV is not as prevalent as it used to be. This is not to say that general levelling is not important, just make sure you sleep with your head higher than your feet.

About the Author:

Coach-Net is pleased to welcome Steve Froese to our team of writers. Steve, an avid RV owner, traveler, and  Coach-Net member since 2013, is the principal of “A Word to the Wise Technical Communications”, a published RV author, certified RV technician, and licensed Professional Engineer. He frequently collaborates with the “RV Doctor”, Gary Bunzer, and has worked with the RVIA/RVDA as a technical and training writer and consultant. Professionally, he works as a quality engineer and musician. Watch for more of Steve’s work in upcoming Coach-Net publications.

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